Question:
I am getting ready to form an service
related internet business,
which could not be profitable in
the first year or 2. The revenue
will most likely be coming from
US businesses. I reside and work
in New Jersey, although I am non-resident
alien authorized to work for my
employer only. Therefore there will
be 1-2 partners extra in the business
that are US citizens/residents.
There will be no employees until
the business
is profitable. I would appreciate
your opinion on several basic questions:
1/ which entity to choose - because
of my immigration status, the best
entity for a service related business
- S-corp is out of question
- therefore LLC or C-corp are the
only options (I only consider et
protecting entities and I want to
take US tax advantages for myself)
2/ which state should I register
this company ? does it make sense
to register company off-state while
living in New Jersey ? does it make
sense to register the company off-shore
? 3/ will I have to pay NJ tax on
the business
income in case most of the business
will be done out of state ? 4/ which
company registration service do
you recommend ?
Answer:
I am getting ready to form an service
related internet business,
which could - not be profitable
in the first year or 2. The revenue
will most likely be - coming from
US businesses. I reside and work
in New Jersey, although I am - non-resident
alien authorized to work for my
employer only. Therefore there -
will be 1-2 partners extra in the
business
that are US citizens/residents.
- There will be no employees until
the business
is profitable. I would - appreciate
your opinion on several basic questions:
I have always wondered about that,
having been a non-resident alien
once myself:
- If you're in business
for yourself (self employed or owning
a business),
meaning you're not employed by somebody
else, is that legal with a social
security card marked "not valid
for employment"? (Not that
mine ever was)
- and: if you write a book, can
you be paid royalties in spite of
not being allowed to work? Where
is the boundary? I know there are
lots of foreign non-resident investors
who own real estate (certainly with
the purpose of making money, not
losing money) or US stocks.
1. You will be an employee of the
business. Other than out of the
ordinary areas such as grants of
certain stock options and the like,
all of the money paid to you can
be claimed as an expense no matter
which legal entity that you choose.
In other words, there are virtually
no tax ramifications to you as to
the legal form of the business.
No form of incorporate will allow
before tax profit to flow to passive
participants (the company will pay
taxes before it yields anything
to the owners of the company - your
"1-2 partners") so again,
no difference. 2. You may read on
the internet about "incorporate
here" (or there). The truth
is that legally you will owe taxes
to any state in which you have a
physical presence. If you are operating
from NJ, you owe NJ. You can incorporate
in Nevada to try to claim a Nevada
only presence and avoid taxes. You
can incorporate in Delaware (like
much of the Fortune 500) to gain
the benefit of corporation friendly
laws and Chancery Court. None of
these gambits are worthwhile to
anything other than very large corporations
with move potential tax liabilities
and legions of lawyers to argue
their cases. If you incorporate,
do it in your home state. 3. See
#2 4. I don't know what you mean
by "company registration".
If you mean "incorporate',
you can learn how on the NJ State
web site. If you need help, contact
a lawyer. 5. If you get answers,
it's a good group. If you don't
want to wade through spam, choose
moderated groups.
I have
always wondered about that, having
been a non-resident alien once -
myself:
If you're in business
for yourself (self employed or owning
a business),
- meaning you're not employed by
somebody else, is that legal with
a social - security card marked
"not valid for employment"?
(Not that mine ever was) I'm not
a lawyer so some of what I suspect
about how one gets around the rules
may not be correct, or may have
been changed, but here's my opinion
on how they get away with this.
If you don't hire yourself then
you're not working for wages. If
you are an owner of the company,
supposedly you would get either
dividends or the remaining profits
through pass through as an S corporation
or directly as (one of) the owner(s)
of an LLC. Since you're not
working for wages the rules against
employment don't apply.
- - and: if you write a book, can
you be paid royalties in spite of
not being - allowed to work? Yes.
- Where is the boundary? Receiving
wages as an employee of an American
company. If you are provably
an independent contractor you're
a private business
and are not an "employee"
of the other company.
Now if it's not an American company
then the rules don't apply.
If someone was a citizen of, say,
Mexico, snuck into the U.S., came
to Washington, D.C. and got a job
at the Australian Embassy it wouldn't
matter whether they were authorized
to work in the U.S. because they
are {de de jour} working in Australia
even though the building is physically
inside the united states, it is
as a matter of law Australian soil.
It's only if you become an employee
of an American company - or a foreign
company that has an office in the
U.S. - that the issue of illegally
working if you're not authorized
to do so.
This is one of the reasons why it's
kind of unfair, because those who
are non-resident aliens without
authorization to work would otherwise
work low-level jobs (cooks, dishwashers,
cleaning people, farm workers) but
are in a position where it is illegal
for them to do so and thus are mercilessly
exploited.
On the other hand, those who are
at the higher end can set up their
own corporations, have the corporation
contract with the other party and
then work for their own corporation
as an independent contractor. Or
incorporate in their country, be
a legitimate employee of that company
and then do work here as an employee
of the other company which has contracted
with the local company. (That, however
might not be legal, I'm not sure,
but if there's no paperwork filed
the federales won't know about it.)
- I know there are lots of foreign
non-resident investors who own real
estate - (certainly with the purpose
- of making money, not losing money)
or US stocks. They again, are not
working for wages. The system
is rigged to make it illegal for
the little guy (who isn't a citizen)
to make money but the big boys who
collect rents ("rents"
meaning unearned income) and royalties
win big time.